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Plain metal!

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Plain metal!

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Mon Apr 20 2009 3:14pm

Spent the past few hours doing that. I think this is the full list bare the unused Weed Golem.
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アーマーウロス (aa-mah-u-ro-su - ARMAUROS. mix of Armor and Minotauros.)
イビルロープ (i-bi-ru-roh-pu - Evil Rope)
ウォーム (woh-mu - Worm)
エリオット (e-ri-ot-to - Eliott, Elliot)
オオコウモリ (o-o-ko-u-mo-ri - Ookoumori [Large Bat])
ガーゴイル (gah-go-i-ru - Gargoyle)
カイン (ka-in - Kane. Cain.)
キメラ (ki-me-ra - Chimera)
グール (guh-ru - Ghoul)
ケイオス (ke-i-o-su - Chaos)
ケルベロス (ke-ru-be-ro-su - Cerberos)
ゴーレム (goh-re-mu - Golem)
ゴブリン (go-bu-rin - Goblin)
コロッサス (ko-ros-sa-su - Colossus)
シーバット (shii-bat-to - Sea Bat)
ジェット (jet-to - Jet)
シルバーナイト (shi-ru-bah-na-i-to - Silver Knight)
スケルトン (su-ke-ru-ton - Skeleton)
ストームローパー (su-toh-mu-roh-pah - Storm Roper)
スナイパー (su-na-i-pah - Sniper)
ゾンビ (zon-bi - Zombie)
ダークソル (daa-ku-so-ru - Darksol)
ダークドラゴン (daa-ku-do-ra-gon - Dark Dragon)
ダークメイジ (daa-ku-me-i-ju - Dark Mage)
デモンマスター (de-mon-ma-su-tah - Demon Master)
デュラハン(du-ra-han - DURAHAN)
トーチアイ (toh-chi-a-i - Torch Eye)
ドール (doh-ru - Doll)
ドワーフ (do-wah-fu - Dwarf)
バール (bah-ru - Bull. Ball. No idea what this is. Shamans are called that in Final Conflict. Could be an error in the site list)
ハイプリースト(ha-i-pu-rii-su-to - High Priest)
パペット (pa-pet-to - Puppet)
バルバザーク (ba-ru-ba-zaa-ku - Balbazak)
ハンターエルフ (han-tah-e-ru-fu - Hunter Elf)
ブラスローダー(bu-ra-su-roh-dah - Brass Loader)
プリースト (pu-rii-su-to - Priest )
ブルードラゴン (bu-ruh-do-ra-gon - Blue Dragon)
プレインメタル (pu-re-in-me-ta-ru - PLAIN METAL [Steel Claw])
ブローバー (bu-roh-bah - Burrower, Bullova, Blower... Same name as in SitD and SF3. So far officially translated to Blackbone (SitD) or Armed Skeleton (SF1).)
ペガサスナイト (pe-ga-sa-su-na-i-to - Pegasus Knight
ベリアル (be-ri-a-ru - Belial)
ヘルハウンド (he-ru-ha-un-do - Hellhound)
ヘルピエロ (he-ru-pi-e-ro - Hell Pierrot [Dire Clown])
ホースマン (hoh-su-man - Horseman)
ボウライダー (bo-wu-ra-i-dah - Bow Rider)
マスターメイジ (ma-su-tah-me-i-ji - Master Mage)
ミサイルシェル (mi-sa-i-ru-sheh-ru - Missile Shell.)
ミシャエラ (mi-sha-e-ra - Mishaela)
ミシャエラドール (mi-sha-e-ra-doh-ru - Mishaela Doll [Marionette)
ラムラドゥ (ra-mu-ra-du - Ramladu)
リザードマン (ri-zah-do-man - Lizardman)
ルーンナイト (ruun-na-i-to - Rune Knight)
レーザーアイ (reh-zah-a-i - Laser Eye)
ワイヴァーン (wa-i-bahn - Wyvern)

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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Balbaroy » Mon Apr 20 2009 3:28pm

アーマーウロス (aa-mah-u-ro-su - Armor... what?)


This is clearly Omarosa.

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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Mon Apr 20 2009 7:54pm

Fact: Turns out it was Demonbreath all along!

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デーモンブレス = Demonbreath ≠ Demon Blaze
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Martin III » Mon Apr 20 2009 11:48pm

So... is the Marionette actually a Mishaela doll? If so, there's another Final Conflict link.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Jun » Tue Apr 21 2009 1:30am

Lord Oddeye @ Mon Apr 20, 2009 6:14 am) wrote:アーマーウロス (aa-mah-u-ro-su - Armor... what?)
- I wanna say "Armor Rose," but there aren't any rose enemies in SF1. ?Looked up "urosu" and variations but to no avail.

オオコウモリ (o-o-ko-u-mo-ri - Okomori or something. Can't seem to spell it right.)
- Ookoumori = fruit bat / flying fox

バール (bah-ru - Bull)
- or probably "ball" (marionette jugglers, perhaps?)

ブローバー (bu-roh-bah - Burrower)
- or something bar...
Discuss.

I don't see artillery, pegasus sniper, claw or armored skeleton; and I don't remember a bull or any kind of burrower in the game.

Ookoumori, however, is a fruit bat.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Rusty » Tue Apr 21 2009 1:40am

You're only learning this just now, Martin? Even if it wasn't called the Mishaela Doll in the English release, it still clearly IS one. o_O
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Martin III » Tue Apr 21 2009 2:02am

Rusty @ Tue Apr 21, 2009 1:40 am) wrote: You're only learning this just now, Martin? Even if it wasn't called the Mishaela Doll in the English release, it still clearly IS one. o_O

I don't see anything to even suggest that it's a Mishaela doll. The walking sprite is completely different. The attack sprites are completely different. And Mishaela says absolutely nothing about it being a doll of herself.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Earl » Tue Apr 21 2009 6:28am

Jun @ Mon Apr 20, 2009 8:30 pm) wrote: I don't see artillery, pegasus sniper, claw or armored skeleton; and I don't remember a bull or any kind of burrower in the game.

The armored skeleton IS the "burrower" (see the SitD monster list in that forum).

And I assume PLAIN METAL is the metal claw.

Sniper is on the list. So is Pegasus Knight. SF1 has no "pegasus sniper" (I couldn't tell if you missed a comma or something).

There's a Brass Loader. I can't remember offhand how many "artillery" type enemies there were, but that might be it.

And I might have missed Conch on the list, so I'm guessing that that's what a Hell Pierrot is.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Flygon » Tue Apr 21 2009 6:37am

There is three different Artillery, but the only difference is that they give more money and exp depending on which one.

But yeah, Brass Loader is definitly Artillery.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Tue Apr 21 2009 8:17am

Earl @ Tue Apr 21, 2009 7:28 am) wrote: And I might have missed Conch on the list, so I'm guessing that that's what a Hell Pierrot is.

:lol:

Hell Pierrot is Mannequin. Otherwise you got them all right. Also the shell things are Storm Roper and Missile Shell. Ice Worm is Evil Rope and Bull is Minotaur.

Edit: Errrr Dire Clown. Not Mannequin.

Edit 2: Apparently the first one in the list is actually Minotaur... I don't get the refer-... ARMAUROS! When I thought it couldn't get worse than Ciao...
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Jun » Tue Apr 21 2009 5:44pm

Earl @ Mon Apr 20, 2009 9:28 pm) wrote: Sniper is on the list. So is Pegasus Knight. SF1 has no "pegasus sniper" (I couldn't tell if you missed a comma or something).

Ah, sorry, not "pegasus." I was thinking of the Lyle-like centaur with the cannon / bow (Bowrider?).

And "Pierrot" is "clown" in French ("Piero" in Japanese form).

Ah, what LO said in the last post there. :shifty:
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Tue Apr 21 2009 5:46pm

Jun @ Tue Apr 21, 2009 6:44 pm) wrote: Ah, sorry, not "pegasus." I was thinking of the Lyle-like centaur with the cannon / bow (Bowrider?).

Horseman and Bow Rider are in the list.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Martin III » Mon May 04 2009 11:46pm

What sort of "plain" is meant in "plain metal"? The English word "plain" has at least four different major meanings...
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Tue May 05 2009 7:33am

Complete or pure metal I'm guessing.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby DarkKobold » Mon May 11 2009 3:04pm

What are the chances of getting translations of the King Kusko speeches?

I'm really hoping that his speeches are really bad translations in the english version, so thats why he ends up sounding like a schizophrenic.

Every time you talk to that guy, he acts like a different person.....
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Mew seeker » Mon May 25 2009 2:09am

I don't see anything to even suggest that it's a Mishaela doll.


I suggest you have a look at this :
http://www.shiningforcecentral.com/artw ... shaela.jpg
and then this :
http://www.shiningforcecentral.com/artw ... onette.jpg
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby WookMaster » Mon May 25 2009 6:23am

So I had some free time on my hands so I went through the japanese verision of Shining Force and came up with this based on Lord Oddeye's translation:
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Armed Skeleton, ブローバー, bu-roh-bah, Burrower
Artillery, ブラスローダー, bu-ra-su-roh-dah, Brass Loader
Balbazak, バルバザーク, ba-ru-ba-zaa-ku, Balbazak
Belial, ベリアル, be-ri-a-ru, Belial
Blue Dragon, ブルードラゴン, bu-ruh-do-ra-gon, Blue Dragon
Bowrider, ボウライダー, bo-wu-ra-i-dah, Bow Rider
Cain/Kane, カイン, ka-in, Kane/Cain
Cerberus, ケルベロス, ke-ru-be-ro-su, Cerberus
Chaos, ケイオス, ke-i-o-su, Chaos
Chimera, キメラ, ki-me-ra, Chimera
Colossus, コロッサス, ko-ros-sa-su, Colossus
Conch, ミサイルシェル, mi-sa-i-ru-sheh-ru, Missile Shell
Dark Elf, ハンターエルフ, han-tah-e-ru-fu, Hunter Elf
Dark Dragon, ダークドラゴン, daa-ku-do-ra-gon, Dark Dragon
Dark Dwarf, ドワーフ, do-wah-fu, Dwarf
Dark Mage, ダークメイジ, daa-ku-me-i-ju, Dark Mage
Dark Priest, プリースト, pu-rii-su-to, Priest
Darksol, ダークソル, daa-ku-so-ru, Darksol
Demon Master, デモンマスター, de-mon-ma-su-tah, Demon Master
Dire Clown, ヘルピエロ, he-ru-pi-e-ro, Hell Pierrot
Durahan, デュラハン, du-ra-han, Durahan
Elliot, エリオット, e-ri-ot-to, Elliot
Evil Puppet, パペット, pa-pet-to, Puppet
Gargoyle, ガーゴイル, gah-go-i-ru, Gargoyle
Goblin, ゴブリン, go-bu-rin, Goblin
Golem, ゴーレム, goh-re-mu, Golem
Ghoul, グール, gah-ru, Ghoul
Giant Bat, オオコウモリ, o-o-ko-u-mo-ri, Ookoumori
Hellhound, ヘルハウンド, he-ru-ha-on-do, Hellhound
High Priest, ハイプリースト, ha-i-pu-rii-su-to, High Priest
Horseman, ホースマン, hoh-su-man, Horseman
Ice Worm, イビルロープ, i-bi-ru-roh-pu, Evil Rope
Jet, ジェット, jet-to, Jet
Laser Eye, レーザーアイ, reh-zah-a-i, Laser Eye
Lizardman, リザードマン, Ri-zah-do-man, Lizardman
Mannequin, ドール, doh-ru, Doll
Marionette, ミシャエラドール, mi-sha-e-ra-doh-ru, Mishaela Doll
Master Mage, マスターメイジ, ma-su-tah-me-i-ji, Master Mage
Minotaur, アーマーウロス, aa-mah-u-ro-su, Armauros
Mishaela, ミシャエラ, mi-sha-e-ra, Mishaela
Pegasus Knight, ペガサスナイト, pe-ga-sa-su-na-i-to, Pegasus Knight
Ramladu, ラムラドゥ, ra-mu-ra-do-u, Ramladu
Rune Knight, ルーンナイト, ruun-na-i-to, Rune Knight
Sea Bat, シーバット, sii-bat-to, Sea Bat
Skeleton, スケルトン, su-ke-ru-ton, Skeleton
Shellfish, トームローパー, su-toh-mu-roh-pah, Storm Roper
Silver Knight, シルバーナイト, si-ru-bah-na-i-to, Silver Knight
Sniper, スナイパー, su-na-i-pah, Sniper
Steel Claw, プレインメタル, pu-re-in-me-ta-ru, Plain Metal
Torch Eye, トーチアイ, toh-chi-a-i , Torch Eye
Worm, ウォーム, u-oh-mu, Worm
Wyvern, ワイヴァーン, wa-i-vu-aan, Wyvern
Zombie, ゾンビ , zon-bi, Zombie

The only one I could not match up is this one: バール (bah-ru - Bull. Ball. No idea what this is.) - No enemy I could find matches this. Everyone seems to be accounted for as well. Weird.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Lord Oddeye sama » Mon Aug 30 2010 12:05pm

Edited my list for accuracy. Haven't tried to match all names with official translations though.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby suoturska » Tue Aug 31 2010 8:05am

Jun @ Tue Apr 21, 2009 3:30 am) wrote: ブローバー (bu-roh-bah - Burrower)
- or something bar...
Discuss.

Brow Bar? Blow Bar?

...Vulva? Probably not.
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Re: Plain metal!

Postby Siel » Tue Aug 31 2010 9:53pm

It could be "bullova", some sort of indian axe.
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