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Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Tue Apr 19 2016 9:18pm

So I've posted about this before but I finally found the time to actually start and upload it. This is basically a lets play of Shining Force as it was originally made (I'm playing the Steam version though) with additional rules to make it more interseting, those are...

1) If a character dies they are dead for good, no reviving!
2) If Max dies its game over!
3) No buying items from shops, either weapons or armor (Repairing items is fine)!
4) I can only escape from a battle before anyone attacks, once any experience is gained I cannot escape (no grinding)!
5) If I get far enough to promote (Level 10) I can only promote one character between each battle!

If it sounds interesting to you check out the video below.

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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Tue May 10 2016 1:01am

Who do you think are going to be the most important characters to ensuring your success? I'm bummed Tao died, she is a great character.

Also, what's the deal with the zooming in and out?

There's an easier way to do the 3rd battle. If you move your troops way to the west side of the map you can engage the bats without pissing off the knights.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Assassins » Tue May 10 2016 1:42am

This challenge hurts my soul. Hey at least you can use zylo to full effect.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Tue May 10 2016 3:15am

Unfortunately it looks like op has pretty poor luck. Zylo will probably end up getting killed by a double attack 5 minutes after recruiting him to the force.

Edit: I take that back after that zombie desert fight I'm 100% convinced op has amazing luck. The wandering derp zombies followed by Max surviving the zombie gang up. Such an exciting fight.

Edit 2: Really looking forward to the circus fight. I think you're pretty good at the game and you will be able to pull it off without losing anyone.

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WARNING: SPOILER!
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Wed May 11 2016 6:50pm

Devonathan wrote:Who do you think are going to be the most important characters to ensuring your success? I'm bummed Tao died, she is a great character.

Also, what's the deal with the zooming in and out?

There's an easier way to do the 3rd battle. If you move your troops way to the west side of the map you can engage the bats without pissing off the knights.

Since Tao is dead... Anri and eventually Domingo assuming they don't die. Towards the end of the game Musashi if I make it that far.

What do you mean by zooming in and out?

See any time I've tried to deal with the bats it just makes the rune knights charge forward all at once, I've done that battle many times that way without anyone dying, was seriously upset when
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Assassins wrote:This challenge hurts my soul. Hey at least you can use zylo to full effect.

Yeah and Bleu eventually if I can level him. Honestly the most annoying part is how many lance users I get and how long and few weapons they can have besides a Bronze Lance and a single basic Spear.

Devonathan wrote:Unfortunately it looks like op has pretty poor luck. Zylo will probably end up getting killed by a double attack 5 minutes after recruiting him to the force.

Edit: I take that back after that zombie desert fight I'm 100% convinced op has amazing luck. The wandering derp zombies followed by Max surviving the zombie gang up. Such an exciting fight.

Edit 2: Really looking forward to the circus fight. I think you're pretty good at the game and you will be able to pull it off without losing anyone.

Edit 3: Sweet baby cheese-its, not Luke. That was total BS.

I have had worse luck honestly, my Pokemon Nuzlocke's go very very poorly. It's a mixed bag at times and when I screw up... I screw up big XD

So the Circus fight...
WARNING: SPOILER!


Thanks for watching and glad you seem to be enjoying it. On Friday when I upload the next video I'm going to go back through and add annotations leading between the videos to make it easier to watch.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Fri May 13 2016 12:27am

I've been having a blast watching these videos. When I first saw this thread I said "Ah what the hell, I will check it out at least", but then I ended up staying up until like 2am watching all of them.

The weird zooming and panning thing only happened in the second video. Not sure what was going on there.

edit: If you could tell us a rough upload schedule that would be really helpful. Also posting here and letting us know when a new video has been uploaded would be great. Keep up the good work, man! I'm committed now and want to see you make it all the way to the end of the game.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Fri May 13 2016 6:27pm

Devonathan wrote:I've been having a blast watching these videos. When I first saw this thread I said "Ah what the hell, I will check it out at least", but then I ended up staying up until like 2am watching all of them.

The weird zooming and panning thing only happened in the second video. Not sure what was going on there.

edit: If you could tell us a rough upload schedule that would be really helpful. Also posting here and letting us know when a new video has been uploaded would be great. Keep up the good work, man! I'm committed now and want to see you make it all the way to the end of the game.

Thats awesome man, glad you are enjoying it so much.

Edit 2: Okay no idea on that weird zooming thing, it seems like OBS what I record with f*cked something up, if you see it in any future videos let me know.

The schedule is set and in the discription of every video, every Tuesday and Friday. I'm recording it pretty far in advance so its just a matter of cutting the video (if needed) and uploading it. Speaking of which, Part 8:

I've thought about doing 3 a week (since going forward most chapters only have 3 battles) but I'm already doing a week vlog as well as an opinion vlog every so often and don't want to crowd my channel so much with multiple videos. If I ended up doing 3 a week I likely wouldn't do so until I finished the run (should I make it to the end or not).

Edit: If you want to see it when its updated I'll try to do so on here but I can't double post, I link it to twitter whenever I upload something though. @NovelMike
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Sat May 14 2016 3:21pm

Shoot, sorry I didn't read the descriptions.

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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Sat May 14 2016 4:08pm

Devonathan wrote:Shoot, sorry I didn't read the descriptions.

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NP man, I put all the details in there but most people do not read them XD

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I'll continue to link videos on here assuming I'm not the most resent poster (can't double post)
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Assassins » Sat May 14 2016 4:10pm

So premature bump ;-)
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Sat May 14 2016 11:09pm

Pelle isn't the best character, but I think he's going to be essential in the fight after you get him. Kokichi will be good just because of his utility as a flyer. That's the cool thing about your challenge - even mediocre characters are going to have a chance to shine.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Tue May 17 2016 4:05pm



Chapter 3 should be much easier... Right?
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Wed May 18 2016 3:06pm

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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Wed May 18 2016 6:10pm

Devonathan wrote:
WARNING: SPOILER!

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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Thu May 19 2016 3:11am

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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Thu May 19 2016 3:46am

Devonathan wrote:
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Lol you're fine man. When I lose people it hurts becuase I know how much harder it makes the game for me to complete but at the same time, watching it back and how I react to a lot of it I find it hilarious XD
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Assassins » Thu May 19 2016 4:53am

The worst parts of shining force one is dead levels and the stat lowering on promotion.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Devonathan » Thu May 19 2016 2:26pm

No kidding Assassins. It is pretty awesome when a character gets like 7 attack in a level up, but I would take the SF2 system any day.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Ansa » Thu May 19 2016 3:16pm

See I kinda like the way its setup in SF1 over the other games in the series honestly. Yeah you start off weaker but going all the way back to level 1 shouldn't you be weaker? Plus doing this lets the stats skyrocket and its so much fun to see a character who was by far the worst one you had and in one level they can become the best. I think its what makes SF stand out from a game like FE where you just have minor stat increases each level.

It also helps to diversify your party because even though everyone has a certain growth how quickly or slowly they reach that growth is all up to RNG so you generally never end up using the same force every time.
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Re: Shining Force Challenge Mode

Postby Assassins » Thu May 19 2016 3:52pm

I don't mind randim level ups and i can understand the flavor of the stat drop on promotion, but it makes using late game characters the pain of pain and dead levels feel like a waste of your time
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