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New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

That "movement glitch" on the battlefield just got glitchier!

Discussion about this classic Genesis/Mega Drive game.

New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Steiger » Tue Apr 24 2018 9:13pm





edit: I'm having some trouble figuring out the "youtube" code, but the links are still valid.
edit2: ...still doesn't seem to be working for me, so I went ahead and embedded url tags, instead.

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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby MXC » Tue Apr 24 2018 9:25pm

I believe you take out everything before, and including the = sign.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Wiz » Tue Apr 24 2018 11:46pm

No exaggeration indeed, DegreeZ's discoveries bring huge skip potential and speedrunner tskisoccer/NoWorries has started mastering the technique.

I'm really curious to see where this will lead the small SF2 speedrunning community. :)

But I'm also really curious to see how these glitches could be fixed in SF2DISASM at some point. :shifty:

In any case, many thanks to Degree Z for his exciting discoveries ! :)
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Jonesy_Pants » Thu Apr 26 2018 2:39am

i dont have sound at work but watched the first Vid, looks crazy!

how does it work?
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby stefanos2k10 » Thu Apr 26 2018 3:37pm

no vid for me can somone pm me the link?
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby PlayerLin » Thu Apr 26 2018 6:47pm

stefanos2k10 wrote:no vid for me can somone pm me the link?


wM0YMLv9Hcs
q24E-XpC6mI
jDPecdpMiX8

Search these video IDs on youtube search function, and it'll show the video to you.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby SirHedge » Tue May 08 2018 4:11am

Whoa. Those are sweet. Amazing what can still be found in a game this old too.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby stefanos2k10 » Tue May 08 2018 10:42am

PlayerLin wrote:
stefanos2k10 wrote:no vid for me can somone pm me the link?


wM0YMLv9Hcs
q24E-XpC6mI
jDPecdpMiX8

Search these video IDs on youtube search function, and it'll show the video to you.


ill try that out thanks
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Devonathan » Sun Jun 03 2018 5:19pm

https://youtu.be/wM0YMLv9Hcs
https://youtu.be/q24E-XpC6mI
https://youtu.be/jDPecdpMiX8

I’ve gotten my guys stuck in that weird in between spot before on accident, but I never knew you could glitch across the map because of it. Very cool and weird.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby stefanos2k10 » Mon Jun 04 2018 4:28pm

cool thanks for the links devon will make things easier going forwards for me :D
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Kilieni » Sun Aug 05 2018 5:46pm

Yeah Degree's discoveries are certainly interesting. The speedrunning community isn't sure what to make of it yet. There's also some resistance to out of bounds in general, as well as some resistance to the idea of separating the category to OoB and No OoB since the community is pretty small.

Early Roft was already doable, and briefly used to get a Great Sword for when Bowie's promoted, but the Peter grinding in the Elven Town battle makes Bowie's damage contribution far less significant. Now it's considered something to do if you want to do something cool or surprise people less familiar with the game. https://youtu.be/PcNbpzQ-ei0 (yes, I know the video is bad and I should redo it)

Early Polca skips an absolute ton of exp, and the battle just after Ribble is still needed to get the Power Ring, which is a huge requirement for several of Peter's snipes. Also needed if you want to skip the first Desert battle, where you go to pick up Petro's Grandfather. https://youtu.be/JkOpcMoW1Us

Early North Parmecia is (obviously) suicidal that early, and crashes with additional followers so it must be done before bringing Oddler with you, which is way too early to deal with North Parmecia. And after he leaves, you have the Caravan.

I'm sure it'll be used for some snipes though. Odd-Eye especially.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby MXC » Sun Aug 05 2018 8:55pm

Is there a way to skip the battle between the Dojo and Roft? If so, you could at least navigate over there and pick up Sheela.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Kilieni » Mon Aug 06 2018 4:32am

Nope, Prism Flowers won't trigger, but the "welcoming party" as we call it still does. Also, if you start a scene that involves a character you bypassed because of sequence breaking in the game, Bowie usually gets the lines. Zynk's scene after Petro's death is the only exception I can think of (it won't trigger). So you cannot even get Zynk in the Force early.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby MXC » Mon Aug 06 2018 12:40pm

I played around a little bit and understand what you're saying above, but that doesn't answer my question about going east from the first battle back on Grans. Yes, the battle will start, but is there a way to move into the mountains next to you, or possibly into the ocean at the bottom of the screen so that you can get out of the battle and over to the Dojo?

And as you mentioned in the video, you can buy the weapons in Roft after selling some mithril. Not sure how much that helps, but getting a Buster Sword that early could be worth looking into.
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Re: New Game-Breaker Glitch Found (NO EXAGGERATION)

Postby Kilieni » Mon Aug 06 2018 7:51pm

Getting a Great Sword early was in the route briefly, but with the Peter grind in the Fairy Woods battle the damage output of anyone who isn't Peter isn't very important after that point.

As for getting out of Welcoming Party, you could put Bowie in the mountains but you'd still have to win the battle. Egress would take you back to Galam, unless you saved in Roft for some reason.

The Nazca Ship flight is the event that sets your Egress point to Sheela's Dojo.
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